Reader’s Corner: The L Word

by Avid Reader on July 3, 2009

in Avid Musings

I love you

Does it mat­ter to you if the hero or hero­ine ever say I love you? In Iris Johansen’s REAP THE WIND, the hero never once utters the words but there is no mis­tak­ing that he does. But then I under­stood why he didn’t. He’d just suf­fered major loss and didn’t want to be hurt again.

REAP THE WIND (the orig­i­nal ver­sion and not the rewrit­ten ver­sion) was a fab­u­lous book, btw and I don’t think that it took any­thing away from the rela­tion­ship that he didn’t say the L word. His actions spoke more than any words ever could have done. So, what say you? As a reader, must the hero whis­per the words “I love you” for com­ple­tion or is the phrase highly over­rated? And not the tacked on kind where the hero/heroine say I love you and you’re left try­ing to fig­ure when that actu­ally happened.

For Fur­ther Reading

{ 15 comments… read them below or add one }

Avid Reader July 17, 2009 at 9:34 pm

Debra C: My opin­ion on this might be biased for two rea­sons. 1. I think the L-word is tossed around far too much. I take it very seri­ously. I once even broke up with a boy because he said he loved me when we’d been together for a week. 2. Most of the romances that I read are para­nor­mals where the bulk of the book gen­er­ally takes place over the course of a week or two.

Yes, I do find it dif­fi­cult to believe “I love you” when the romance has lasted three or four days. That’s when the happy for now type of end­ing kicks in where they agree to date and meet each other for din­ner. Thanks for the feedback.

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Debra C July 15, 2009 at 11:14 am

My opin­ion on this might be biased for two rea­sons. 1. I think the L-word is tossed around far too much. I take it very seri­ously. I once even broke up with a boy because he said he loved me when we’d been together for a week. 2. Most of the romances that I read are para­nor­mals where the bulk of the book gen­er­ally takes place over the course of a week or two.

I don’t hate when those three words come up, but some­times I have to sus­pend a lit­tle dis­be­lief (I appar­ently have no trou­ble with vam­pires and were­wolves, but love in a week?). And I gen­er­ally only want it at the very end. Oth­er­wise, it gen­er­ally feels out of place for me. I have no prob­lem with love, but I take it very seri­ously. And in some books, it seems like the char­ac­ters only ever say it so that the reader will know for absolute cer­tain. As much as read­ers need to know things some­times, it seems to me that if that’s the only way they’ll know for sure, maybe your char­ac­ters aren’t as in love as you thought.

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Avid Reader July 12, 2009 at 11:31 pm

CindyS: Anne Stu­art is my favourite author and get­ting any of her char­ac­ters to say ‘I love you’ is like pulling teeth. But when they do, the book becomes a real keeper.

Yeah but aren’t many of her heroes assas­sins? I mean come on now, these guys are a bit rough around the edges, LOL. And YES, I’d have to agree, if they said ‘I love you’ then you can take it to the bank.

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CindyS July 12, 2009 at 11:27 pm

Great topic. I have to say that as I get older it’s not as required but after read­ing what you said about Ghost I have to agree. If nei­ther per­son says I love you then it’s open but if one tells the other and the response is some­thing other than I love you too then I’m won­der­ing what the prob­lem is.

I think with Ghost and ‘ditto’ it felt insin­cere. I guess if I told some­one I loved them and they said ‘back at ya’ I’d be think­ing they weren’t serious.

Still for me, I do like to hear the words. I also notice if only one char­ac­ter says it and since my mem­ory is not great that obvi­ously says some­thing about me.

All this and Anne Stu­art is my favourite author and get­ting any of her char­ac­ters to say ‘I love you’ is like pulling teeth. But when they do, the book becomes a real keeper.

Cindys

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Avid Reader July 10, 2009 at 12:59 pm

Mag­dalen: Okay, I just have to argue the other side. (SarahT will con­firm the depress­ing truth — I’m a lawyer.)
I am all for the actions that speak louder than words, but who said you have to have either/or? So what I’m think­ing, if I’m in the heroine’s shoes, is why isn’t he say­ing it? If he’s afraid to get hurt, then he’s con­flicted. My happy end­ings include the res­o­lu­tion of con­flicts. He has to decide that the risk of los­ing her is not worth pro­tect­ing him­self from hurt. And any man who has decided he doesn’t have to say “I love you” to a woman he wants a per­ma­nent rela­tion­ship with is either arro­gant or stu­pid.
So — he doesn’t have to say it to show it. He has to say it because it’s true, he’s will­ing to com­mit, he wants her to hear it as well as see/feel it, and the silence is deaf­en­ing. It’s the gen­er­ous & lov­ing thing to do.

You know I am a bit con­flicted because I remem­bered the movie Ghost (which was men­tioned as well in the blog post by Jane) and always Patrick Swayze’s char­ac­ter would say “Ditto” when­ever Demi Moore would tell him she loved him. I didn’t like it at all. I wanted to hear him say the words. But every romance is dif­fer­ent and so I say let the char­ac­ters decide if the L-word need to be said or not. But no, I don’t find it nec­es­sary if the author has done her job in show­ing me that they love each other.

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Magdalen July 10, 2009 at 11:11 am

Okay, I just have to argue the other side. (SarahT will con­firm the depress­ing truth — I’m a lawyer.)

I am all for the actions that speak louder than words, but who said you have to have either/or? So what I’m think­ing, if I’m in the heroine’s shoes, is why isn’t he say­ing it? If he’s afraid to get hurt, then he’s con­flicted. My happy end­ings include the res­o­lu­tion of con­flicts. He has to decide that the risk of los­ing her is not worth pro­tect­ing him­self from hurt. And any man who has decided he doesn’t have to say “I love you” to a woman he wants a per­ma­nent rela­tion­ship with is either arro­gant or stupid.

So — he doesn’t have to say it to show it. He has to say it because it’s true, he’s will­ing to com­mit, he wants her to hear it as well as see/feel it, and the silence is deaf­en­ing. It’s the gen­er­ous & lov­ing thing to do.

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Denise Robbins July 8, 2009 at 9:40 am

I loved Reap the Wind! It was one of the first books I read by Iris Johansen and got me hooked on her books.

I per­son­ally think that show­ing is way more impor­tant than the words them­selves. If the actions are obvi­ous then the use of the L word is just icing on the cake.

I have read many books where the use of the three words is at the very end of the story so by that time you already know how the hero/heroine feel and if you don’t, adding it at the end will not make a bit of difference.

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Avid Reader July 4, 2009 at 10:54 am

kel­lykrys­ten: In the end, no mat­ter how amaz­ing the author has been in show­ing me the H/h’s love, I need to hear the words. Emo­tions IRL are con­fus­ing. There has to be a ver­bal and action ori­ented claim

I’m sure more read­ers feel the same way…thanks for the feed­back. Interesting.

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kellykrysten July 3, 2009 at 10:50 pm

In the end, no mat­ter how amaz­ing the author has been in show­ing me the H/h’s love, I need to hear the words. Emo­tions IRL are con­fus­ing. There has to be a ver­bal and action ori­ented claim.
Great blog!

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Avid Reader July 3, 2009 at 10:39 pm

Mary-Frances Makichen: I really liked this post. I think it brought up a great question.

Hey thanks! I would have added the aspect of show ver­sus tell because for me I pre­fer the for­mer. REAP THE WIND is just one of those books that has stayed with me for years. I love that book, loved the hero in that book if you can find the *orig­i­nal* ver­sion of the book before the author butchered it in a rewrite.

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toni July 3, 2009 at 10:38 pm

I agree with the other com­menters here — truth in action.

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Mary-Frances Makichen July 3, 2009 at 10:22 pm

I really liked this post. I think it brought up a great ques­tion. I’m with SarahT “The only thing you can really rely on is what a per­son does, not says.” I like it when authors have the hero grin­ning (or some­thing like that) at the hero­ine when she’s just being her­self. It doesn’t mat­ter if she’s annoyed, elated, or angry. The hero digs her for being her. I love it when an author shows that. The words “I love you” are nice too but not the end all and be all.

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Avid Reader July 3, 2009 at 7:25 pm

thanks guys, you are the best, for enter­tain­ing my sim­plis­tic topic today! I actu­ally had more to say but I for­got I had this already sched­uled to go live. Les­son learned. Hope you all have a Happy Fourth!

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SarahT July 3, 2009 at 11:59 am

As I’ve learned from real life expe­ri­ence, words mean noth­ing. The only thing you can really rely on is what a per­son does, not says. So, no, I wouldn’t care if a romance hero never said: “I love you” to the hero­ine, as long as he showed her how much he cared.

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Tee July 3, 2009 at 7:18 am

In a word, “no.” He doesn’t have to say it for me to believe it if the author has done her job well. As you said about the book “Reap the Wind,“

his actions spoke more than any words ever could have done.

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