Reader’s Corner: There’s a Fine Line Between Romantic Suspense and Mystery

by Avid Reader on August 7, 2009

in Avid Musings

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Today’s post was inspired by a forum dis­cus­sion at AAR where read­ers are yet still defin­ing what con­sti­tutes a romance but that’s not what I’m going to expound on here today.

The dis­cus­sion started around a roman­tic sus­pense novel, FADE TO BLACK by Leslie Parish where one reader thought the vio­lence was too graphic and the story not roman­tic at all. This made me think just what dif­fer­en­ti­ates roman­tic sus­pense from mystery?

Well, let’s see, in roman­tic sus­pense, you have, well, the two ele­ments of romance and sus­pense. If done right, they are sup­posed to bal­ance each other out but that rarely if ever is achieved. In roman­tic sus­pense, the heavy empha­sis is sup­pose to be on the romance. The sus­pense is more or less a side arc that is sup­posed to be the main con­flict that is uti­lized to draw the two pro­tag­o­nists together.

Often the vio­lence in roman­tic sus­pense nov­els can go from mild to graphic vio­lence. But the level of vio­lence isn’t what defines roman­tic sus­pense is it? No.

Now, there are mys­ter­ies that I’ve read that would eas­ily fall under the umbrella of roman­tic sus­pense as these sto­ries tend to have a very strong roman­tic sub­plot. But what stops them from being labeled as roman­tic sus­pense is the use of over the top vio­lence and the lack of a HEA. Even in some of these roman­tic sus­pense nov­els, the vio­lence can get grue­some, too, thereby fur­ther blur­ring the lines between the two sub-genres.

Then in that case we’re back to what dif­fer­en­ti­ates roman­tic sus­pense from mys­tery? Well, let’s start with the obvi­ous, roman­tic sus­pense must have a HEA whereas mys­ter­ies do not. Easy enough to fig­ure out, yes? In fact, that is about it for me when defin­ing the dif­fer­ence between them.

I’ve read my share of mys­tery and roman­tic sus­pense nov­els and hey, they seem to share a lot of the same ele­ments like ser­ial killers and in some cases the romance is either a blip in the story or a big sub­plot. For exam­ple, Julia Spencer-Fleming’s mys­ter­ies are labeled as “cozy” and are shelved in mys­tery but they have a strong roman­tic sub­plot in them. A lot of romance read­ers, I think, would enjoy that series.

Where roman­tic sus­pense gets to be a big turn off for romance read­ers is when the vio­lence gets to be too graphic and even gra­tu­itous. The romance is often given the shaft. No one likes read­ing from the perps POV. Often I have to ask why is it even nec­es­sary to have a victim/perp scene? Any­way, the author almost writes like he/she for­got they were sup­pose to write a roman­tic sus­pense novel not sus­pense novel with roman­tic ele­ments in them. But half of them more or less read like the lat­ter these days.

I did some under­cover, non-scientific study with a very small sam­ple size, ask­ing read­ers on Twit­ter if they enjoyed read­ing roman­tic sus­pense. I wasn’t sur­prised by the results as it turned out to be not very many. Why is that? Who wants to read about two peo­ple falling in love and run­ning for their lives? Eh?

When one thinks of roman­tic sus­pense, for me it brings to mind authors like Linda Howard (After the Night) or Kather­ine Sut­cliffe (Bad Moon Ris­ing) or even Karen Rose (Kill For Me). The vio­lence in those books tend to be non-existent to tame. Now San­dra Brown’s work is hard to clas­sify. Some­times her books have a strong roman­tic sub­plot in them (Play Dirty) and in that case I would call them “roman­tic sus­pense” but she’s writ­ten other books like Cha­rade and Wit­ness which are straight up sus­pense with sex.

Also, how many read Karen Robards? How well does she do? I find her stuff hit or miss. The last good Karen Robards book I read was One Sum­mer and it had a weak sus­pense plot, an after­thought really and no it wasn’t labeled as roman­tic sus­pense. How about Iris Johansen? She went from his­tor­i­cal romance writer to straight sus­pense writer. Last good book by her that I read was Long After Mid­night. Even though read­ers want the romance to be nicely done, the sus­pense part of the novel has to be on par or else, it’s a FAIL.

Wrap­ping this up, mys­tery and roman­tic sus­pense do share a lot of the same ele­ments but where the dif­fer­ence stops is in the focus (romance ver­sus the mys­tery) and the end­ing (happy ver­sus not). I know I try to men­tion vio­lence when it is heavy handed in any book I read as I think it’s significant.

There’s vio­lence that I find in Karin Slaughter’s work or even Chelsea Cain’s work that seem grati­ti­tu­ous. But that goes beyond the scope of this topic and it has yet to stop me from read­ing their work. Vio­lence in books just doesn’t bother me but again, that goes beyond the scope of this topic. Maybe another time.

In the end, roman­tic sus­pense is about the romance and the HEA. You can add in what­ever you like, I guess, as far as vio­lence, vil­lain POV, skanky sex, etc as far as that goes but the focus must always be on the romance and the end­ing must be a good one and a happy one if one is to label it “roman­tic suspense.”

As an aside, Fade To Black by Leslie Parish looks good and AAR gave the book a decent grade. I just might check it out for myself. Yes, you are wit­ness­ing word of mouth, in action.

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Avid Reader August 8, 2009 at 7:53 am

sybil: other than that I am pretty cool… ok that is pro­lly a lie I am cool until you ‘hit’ whatev pisses me off like that

Same for me! Didn’t know posters could have groupies but there you go. My point is that there are ele­ments in r/s that may be a big turn off for romance read­ers — the exces­sive vio­lence, lack of a strong romance sub­plot as not every r/s labeled out there fol­lows the rules. Just sayin.

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Avid Reader August 8, 2009 at 7:50 am

Renee: My ear­li­est romances were his­tor­i­cal roman­tic sus­pense which I read tons of (Phyl­lis Whit­ney, Vic­to­ria Holt, Madeleine Brent, etc)

I read almost every­thing Vic­to­ria Holt wrote and enjoyed almost all of them. Mary Stew­art, too. I’m not that big of a r/s reader either but if I hear an author is good, I will most cer­tainly give them a try.

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Avid Reader August 8, 2009 at 7:48 am

willa­ful:

Which Karen Rose are you read­ing? I enjoy her writ­ing but find her books extremely vio­lent, almost to the point of giv­ing her up.

I have read two of hers thus far Count To Ten and Die For Me I know I’ve read one more but can’t think which one. But any­way, as she con­tin­ues to write, expect more vio­lence. I really do expect her to move away from r/s and go straight mystery.

Today it seems as if writ­ers are try­ing to outdo each other with the vio­lence but then again, I don’t have a prob­lem with it. A lot of the times I skim over the gory details. You can have a vio­lent crime and not have to describe it in full detail but then again what fun would that be.

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Lori August 8, 2009 at 12:13 am

Laugh­ing. K. I aint *that* old! Not by a long shot. She eas­ily has 20 years on me. And a far larger stick up her ass.

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sybil August 7, 2009 at 11:55 pm

Lori: I don’t know about it being an age thing, Sybil. Unless you mean *really* old, LOL.

if you dare

if the link to arr, read the first post and then run out really fast

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Lori August 7, 2009 at 11:49 pm

I don’t know about it being an age thing, Sybil. Unless you mean *really* old, LOL. Cause I’m push­ing my mid-40s, and I obvi­ously have no issues w/the vio­lence, But I thrive on it. Heh. I’m a sicko that way. Although I am cooler than the aver­age old lady.

And, I do want to see an HEA if there is any hint of a romance in my book. Or at least know that the H/h are on their way to that HEA.

I also am a bit bummed that the next Bren­nan tril­ogy is para­nor­mal. I’m hop­ing it’s just some ele­ments, ya know? I’ll give the first one a shot, for sure.

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Renee August 7, 2009 at 11:35 pm

As to the ques­tion of romance/mystery divid­ing line. Like you said, HEA is nec­es­sary in romance not nec­es­sar­ily in mys­tery. The sec­ond lit­mus test for me would be that the mys­tery plot dri­ves most of the action in a mys­tery. The rela­tion­ship would drive most of the action in a romance.
In the case of the JS-F series (which I LOVE) I would fig­ure it’s a mys­tery with roman­tic ele­ments. If Russ for some rea­son were to be scarce for a book or their rela­tion­ship did not progress in some way, I’d be really dis­ap­pointed, but it would still be pos­si­ble to still have a story.
I’m not a big roman­tic sus­pense reader. IDK why. My ear­li­est romances were his­tor­i­cal roman­tic sus­pense which I read tons of (Phyl­lis Whit­ney, Vic­to­ria Holt, Madeleine Brent, etc) but when I started read­ing romance again a cou­ple of years ago, nei­ther con­tem­po­rary nor his­tor­i­cal rs much inter­ested me. Anne Stu­art and Jill Soren­son are the only two I think I’ve recently read.

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willaful August 7, 2009 at 11:31 pm

Which Karen Rose are you read­ing? I enjoy her writ­ing but find her books extremely vio­lent, almost to the point of giv­ing her up.

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sybil August 7, 2009 at 8:16 pm

And it is romance!!!!! So the AAR Review (which I haven’t read) and the book I haven’t read BUT if it is THAT bad should have given some kind of a warn­ing if they have that big of a pussy group over there still.

CUZ it is a romance site… a oh this does get pretty graphic takes two sec­onds… know your vis­i­tors… isn’t rocket sci­ence no? that is just nice noth­ing to do with this is that and that is this or lets label the shit out of everything

romance = hea

other than that I am pretty cool… ok that is pro­lly a lie I am cool until you ‘hit’ whatev pisses me off like that ;)

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sybil August 7, 2009 at 8:12 pm

damn you, damn you to hell

I will so go and read that thread. ::head desk:: started by a dick groupie no less… I think it is largely an age thing as well or could be I have been read­ing a shit load of sus­pense. And love hor­ror movies.

I am just a bad bad girl. Of course if it is RS and doesn’t END HEA I would be pissed. Open vio­lent eh… I have Fade to Black to read and really look for­ward to it. But I am a huge fan of Lisa Gard­ner and was way sad to hear Alli­son Brennan’s next are para­nor­mal. Of course we really do need more of those…

Have you tried Hank Phillippi Ryan?

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Avid Reader August 7, 2009 at 11:41 am

Now Eliz­a­beth Naughton I plan to try so thanks KristieJ.
@Lori, I do plan to read Parish myself and as for Rose, agreed, even­tu­ally she will be like Johansen and oth­ers, writ­ing thrillers. Heck, she’s good at it and gets bet­ter with each suc­ces­sive book she writes.

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Lori August 7, 2009 at 11:31 am

Now, see? I’m one of those who thinks that the vio­lence in Fade to Black wasn’t over­done. It was totally appro­pri­ate for the story. And there was romance in the book, too — also appro­pri­ate for the story. But I also love books like that. The authors with whom I would equate this book are ear­lier Karen Rose, Mariah Stew­art, and maybe even a lit­tle Lisa Jack­son, although this one was heav­ier on the romance than a clas­sic Jack­son is. IMO, it’s all about pref­er­ences. And isn’t that what the romance genre is so great at? Sup­port­ing mul­ti­ple pref­er­ences? It always both­ers me when peo­ple crit­i­cize books sim­ply because they aren’t their preference.

I think that many have been wooed by the idea of roman­tic sus­pense as Shan­non McKenna or Linda Howard (and don’t get me wrong — I absolutely ADORE their books) or other sim­i­lar books. And per­haps the line between “roman­tic sus­pense” and “roman­tic thriller” has become blurred by authors such as Rose, whom lately I would put firmly in the thriller cat­e­gory rather than sus­pense. I don’t view it as a bad thing. Just a mat­ter of pref­er­ence, once again. I’m one of the lucky ones who hap­pen to love both.

I thought that it was wrong for the book to be crit­i­cized, in the same way it would be wrong for a Mariah Stew­art or a Karen Rose to be crit­i­cized for being too vio­lent. And you should def­i­nitely read it :)

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KristieJ August 7, 2009 at 1:16 am

One of the best RS books I’ve read in a while — one that has a good bal­ance between the R and the S (as opposed to the alpha­bet where there is noth­ing in between is Stolen Heat by Eliz­a­beth Naughton. It IS a hard thing to bal­ance right I think and not many authors get it right.

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